Suddenly Wright is Important?

I’m pretty angry this morning. Actually, I’ve been pretty angry for a few days now because of the hypocrites that mindlessly follow every word Obama says and defend every action he takes.

For weeks and weeks we’ve heard about how Obama’s connections to the racist anti-American Reverend Jeremiah Wright were unimportant. It was a creation of the media. It was a creation of racist white people. White people don’t understand the black church.

Apparently, neither do half-black people, and Jeff Jarvis isn’t pleased that gears have been changed and 180 degree about faces have been done.

Now I’m actually angrier about Obama and the Rev. Wright than before. When I complained about what Wright said the first times, I was told that I didn’t understand the history of the black church, I didn’t understand black liberation theology, I didn’t listen to the whole context of what he said. Bull.

But now Obama repudiates Wright. And all Wright did was repeat the exact same crackpot crap that some of us had complained about before.

So before, I was as good as called racist or at least clueless for criticizing the not-so-good reverend. But now when Obama finally criticizes him, the New York Times editorial page — in a classic of doublespeak soft-headed mush from wimps — praises him for “the most forthright repudiation of an out-of-control supporter that we can remember.” Jesus.

So what happened to the context?

Reverend Wright hasn’t changed his tune. He’s still spinning the same yarns he was a few weeks and years ago. He’s still claiming America is a deeply flawed country building empires and oppressing people. He’s still claiming that AIDS was let loose into the black community as some kind of eugenics experiment. None of this is new.

For weeks and weeks we’ve been told that those remarks are meant to be taken in a certain context. That white people don’t understand the black church and the deeeper meaning of these comments. They mean nothing, and white people are making a mountain out of a molehill. Obama’s supporters have consistently questioned every aspect of people’s problems with the remarks and told us (us being those who disagreed with it) that we were misintrepreting.

Those exact same people are now applauding Barack Obama for distancing himself and publicly repudiating him for his remarks.

Why?

Did Barack misunderstand the context, also? Reverend Wright has the absolute right to say whatever the hell he wants. Obama has the right to freely associate with who he chooses. I just question the fact that those people who said everyone was misunderstanding Wright are now applauding Obama for distancing himself from a guy who was merely misunderstood.

I apologize if this makes me daft, but what changed? Is the context only a bad thing when Barack sends the message down to his people that things being said are bad?

I’m having a hard time reconciling this. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

  • Patrick

    Eh…I’m not applauding him. I don’t think he should have had to do this.

  • Patrick

    Eh…I’m not applauding him. I don’t think he should have had to do this.

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/ Vinny

    As I said the last time we talked about this douchebag… Who you associate with reflects on your judgment. Rezko, Ayers, Wright… The guy has a history of hooking up with some real douchebags.

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com Vinny

    As I said the last time we talked about this douchebag… Who you associate with reflects on your judgment. Rezko, Ayers, Wright… The guy has a history of hooking up with some real douchebags.

  • The Masked Rye

    But see, Obama can claim “well, in the past I never actually heard what he said”. Millions of americans will be able to relate because they probably sleep through their church/synagogue anyway. So now he had no excuse, he couldn’t say he didn’t hear… we all heard.

    It’s just stupid. Like you said, last time we were wrong for saying anything against Wright, and this time, Obama’s a saint for saying something. People are stupid.

  • The Masked Rye

    But see, Obama can claim “well, in the past I never actually heard what he said”. Millions of americans will be able to relate because they probably sleep through their church/synagogue anyway. So now he had no excuse, he couldn’t say he didn’t hear… we all heard.

    It’s just stupid. Like you said, last time we were wrong for saying anything against Wright, and this time, Obama’s a saint for saying something. People are stupid.

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/ Vinny

    It would be nice if the Ozombies came out and admitted that we weren’t all big ole mean white racists. I mean, Barack apparently had a problem with what he was saying, also, so you have to wonder when the apology will come.

    It’ll also be interesting to see how, if he becomes the nominee, any criticism would sit with people or if, like they did in this case, it would be a “black thing,” and people criticizing him would just be portrayed as out of touch racists.

    I can hardly wait.

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com Vinny

    It would be nice if the Ozombies came out and admitted that we weren’t all big ole mean white racists. I mean, Barack apparently had a problem with what he was saying, also, so you have to wonder when the apology will come.

    It’ll also be interesting to see how, if he becomes the nominee, any criticism would sit with people or if, like they did in this case, it would be a “black thing,” and people criticizing him would just be portrayed as out of touch racists.

    I can hardly wait.

  • Patrick

    And what about Hillary’s connections? Can’t discuss those? What about Wal-Mart? What about Tony Rezko? Seems like she keeps some pretty filthy company too…. What do these things say about her?

    Originally I thought Hillary to be a paragon of moral conduct, -*cough* It’s hard for me to even say that sarcastically- but your guilt by association argument has me thinkin’….

    By the way, Obama was 8 years old when Ayers was blowing shit up….

  • Patrick

    And what about Hillary’s connections? Can’t discuss those? What about Wal-Mart? What about Tony Rezko? Seems like she keeps some pretty filthy company too…. What do these things say about her?

    Originally I thought Hillary to be a paragon of moral conduct, -*cough* It’s hard for me to even say that sarcastically- but your guilt by association argument has me thinkin’….

    By the way, Obama was 8 years old when Ayers was blowing shit up….

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/ Vinny

    What do you mean what about Hillary’s connections? We had 8 years of people digging deep into every fart that came out of the White House!

    As for Tony Rezko, there is no Clinton connection.

    And yes, Obama was 8 years old… We get that. But I wouldn’t hang out with… Let’s say… Lee Harvey Oswald? James Earl Ray? I understand that they’re dead and all, but I wouldn’t “hang” with them. I wouldn’t call them friends. I wouldn’t defend their actions, and I CERTAINLY wouldn’t allow them to run fundraisers for me or do business with me ESPECIALLY if they outright said they weren’t sorry for what they did.

    But that’s me.

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com Vinny

    What do you mean what about Hillary’s connections? We had 8 years of people digging deep into every fart that came out of the White House!

    As for Tony Rezko, there is no Clinton connection.

    And yes, Obama was 8 years old… We get that. But I wouldn’t hang out with… Let’s say… Lee Harvey Oswald? James Earl Ray? I understand that they’re dead and all, but I wouldn’t “hang” with them. I wouldn’t call them friends. I wouldn’t defend their actions, and I CERTAINLY wouldn’t allow them to run fundraisers for me or do business with me ESPECIALLY if they outright said they weren’t sorry for what they did.

    But that’s me.

  • The Masked Rye

    Yeah, I thought we covered that in a previous post. Maybe if he was hanging out with Ayers when he was 8, we could ignore it. But as a knowing adult in political office? Maybe one radical we could chalk it up to Obama being nice to crazy people… but eventually, it’s gonna make people question him.

    And we never claimed Hillary was perfect… I’m fairly certain most of her supporters are aware of most of her flaws and skeletons. But Obamaheads all act as if he is saintly, a messiah come to save us all. Hillary’s crowd can handle criticism of her, while Obamanuts always turn it into a race thing. If that’s the type of attitude we’d get if he’s the nominee, and if he becomes president… I’m definitely against it. That kind of attitude doesn’t bring people together… it separates. It could end up doing damage rather than uniting.

  • The Masked Rye

    Yeah, I thought we covered that in a previous post. Maybe if he was hanging out with Ayers when he was 8, we could ignore it. But as a knowing adult in political office? Maybe one radical we could chalk it up to Obama being nice to crazy people… but eventually, it’s gonna make people question him.

    And we never claimed Hillary was perfect… I’m fairly certain most of her supporters are aware of most of her flaws and skeletons. But Obamaheads all act as if he is saintly, a messiah come to save us all. Hillary’s crowd can handle criticism of her, while Obamanuts always turn it into a race thing. If that’s the type of attitude we’d get if he’s the nominee, and if he becomes president… I’m definitely against it. That kind of attitude doesn’t bring people together… it separates. It could end up doing damage rather than uniting.

  • Patrick

    “I wouldn’t call them friends. I wouldn’t defend their actions”

    When has Barack Obama called Rev. Wright or Bill Ayers friends? When has he defended their actions?

    And so, because we have already been exposed to Hillary’s shady company, it’s excusable. Sounds like a double standard to me.

  • Patrick

    “I wouldn’t call them friends. I wouldn’t defend their actions”

    When has Barack Obama called Rev. Wright or Bill Ayers friends? When has he defended their actions?

    And so, because we have already been exposed to Hillary’s shady company, it’s excusable. Sounds like a double standard to me.

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/ Vinny

    As I said, unless you can find something new that hasn’t been discussed already, the issues of Hillary’s “friends” has been beat to death, and seeing as her “filthy” connections are tenuous at best, let’s get back to the subject at hand.

    Barack Obama has called Reverend Wright his friend on numerous occasions, and has had a much closer relationship to him than a normal pastor / parishioner relationship. In his book, he talked about bouncing decisions off of Wright to get his input, having him over for dinner, and so on.

    Ayers, while maybe not a “go out to the bar and party” friend was definitely more than just some crazy unrepentant terrorist he happens to know. They’ve served on committees for organizations together, and Ayers and his wife held at least two different fundraisers for Barack Obama’s campaign. Obama has yet to repudiate Ayers, instead defending him as a respected educator at Berkeley and claiming he never really knew him that well despite all their occasions of working together.

    If you think about it, between Wright, Rezko, and Ayers, Obama really has a problem finding good people to surround himself with, and now it’s coming out that one of Michelle Obama’s buddies is a terrorist apologist and anti-Israel nut case. How many coincidences can you take with people’s associates until you start wondering if maybe… Just maybe…. There might be some kind of judgment issue?

    I challenge you to find anything similar in Hillary or Bill’s past.

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com Vinny

    As I said, unless you can find something new that hasn’t been discussed already, the issues of Hillary’s “friends” has been beat to death, and seeing as her “filthy” connections are tenuous at best, let’s get back to the subject at hand.

    Barack Obama has called Reverend Wright his friend on numerous occasions, and has had a much closer relationship to him than a normal pastor / parishioner relationship. In his book, he talked about bouncing decisions off of Wright to get his input, having him over for dinner, and so on.

    Ayers, while maybe not a “go out to the bar and party” friend was definitely more than just some crazy unrepentant terrorist he happens to know. They’ve served on committees for organizations together, and Ayers and his wife held at least two different fundraisers for Barack Obama’s campaign. Obama has yet to repudiate Ayers, instead defending him as a respected educator at Berkeley and claiming he never really knew him that well despite all their occasions of working together.

    If you think about it, between Wright, Rezko, and Ayers, Obama really has a problem finding good people to surround himself with, and now it’s coming out that one of Michelle Obama’s buddies is a terrorist apologist and anti-Israel nut case. How many coincidences can you take with people’s associates until you start wondering if maybe… Just maybe…. There might be some kind of judgment issue?

    I challenge you to find anything similar in Hillary or Bill’s past.

  • Patrick

    Eh, fuck it. Sometimes, when you start at the bottom, you make nefarious connections on your way to the top. There, I said it. That’s politics and believe it or not, I don’t think that effects his judgment, nor does it contradict his message.

  • Patrick

    Eh, fuck it. Sometimes, when you start at the bottom, you make nefarious connections on your way to the top. There, I said it. That’s politics and believe it or not, I don’t think that effects his judgment, nor does it contradict his message.

  • The Masked Rye

    To quote Obama, “The fact that so many people are surprised to hear that anger in some of Reverend Wright’s sermons simply reminds us of the old truism that the most segregated hour of American life occurs on Sunday morning.” Follow that with “I can no more disavow him as I would my own grandmother”.

    That was the old tune. Basically saying “white folks shouldn’t be surprise that black folks are angry”. Wright hasn’t said anything different this week than in the past, only this time around, Obama can’t claim ignorance (I mean, he really couldn’t claim it before, could he?). This time it wasn’t just in church, it was to the media. So it became more valid. Fact is, Obama wasn’t pissed with the same language earlier in the year, but now, now, for some reason, he’s offended.

    Too convenient. Sound’s like he’s flip flopping. First he’s “white people don’t understand”. Then he’s “um… I take it back, that is offensive… I must not have been listening, since I was just assuming that the white people were over reacting, as you white people often do”

  • The Masked Rye

    To quote Obama, “The fact that so many people are surprised to hear that anger in some of Reverend Wright’s sermons simply reminds us of the old truism that the most segregated hour of American life occurs on Sunday morning.” Follow that with “I can no more disavow him as I would my own grandmother”.

    That was the old tune. Basically saying “white folks shouldn’t be surprise that black folks are angry”. Wright hasn’t said anything different this week than in the past, only this time around, Obama can’t claim ignorance (I mean, he really couldn’t claim it before, could he?). This time it wasn’t just in church, it was to the media. So it became more valid. Fact is, Obama wasn’t pissed with the same language earlier in the year, but now, now, for some reason, he’s offended.

    Too convenient. Sound’s like he’s flip flopping. First he’s “white people don’t understand”. Then he’s “um… I take it back, that is offensive… I must not have been listening, since I was just assuming that the white people were over reacting, as you white people often do”

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com/ Vinny

    Rye,

    Next time I see you (which will probably be in May I’m guessing) I’m gonna shake your hand.

    Well frigging said.

  • http://www.insignificantthoughts.com Vinny

    Rye,

    Next time I see you (which will probably be in May I’m guessing) I’m gonna shake your hand.

    Well frigging said.